Kevin D

Kevin D 2 years ago

Caro-Kann Exchange Variation Revisited

Alexey Dreev has been quite successful with the Caro-Kann against our (Modern) Exchange Variation in the following line: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.c3 Qc7 6.Ne2 Bg4 7.0-0 e6 8.Qe1 Nf6!? This move was briefly mentioned in the course, but clearly requires more detailed attention in light of its success in recent praxis. I am hoping that our ChessMood GM's can find an effective move-order antidote and share it with us in the Advance Section of the course.

Thanks for all your great work. :)

GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 2 years ago

Hey Kevin! You know theory much better than many grandmasters :D 
Yeah, Nf6 is a strong move and with GM Gabuzyan we suffered a lot until we found a way to keep the initiative. 
Will record and upload it in advanced section :) 
Thank you for your kind words. 

Giorgos Kechagias

Giorgos Kechagias 2 years ago

And let's not forget the Karpov variation with Nd7 and then Nf6, in order to recapture with the d7 knight, so as not to damage your pawn structure on the kingside when you are playing black. This is a very important fact when your are playing the carro kan because after move 13 to 15, Ng6 is a very common sacrifise with white. Although that doubled pawns pn the f or g files give black kingside a better solidity, I don't recommend it for the careo kan and use to play the karpov variation, either with e6 Be7 0-0 line or with fianchetto of the kingside biahop for black.
Richard Dickinson

Richard Dickinson 2 years ago

Thanks Kevin D

Dreev seems to have some success with Black in the Caro Kann.

This game(Lendermann vs Dreev) has some analysis at this ChessBase link: https://en.chessbase.com/post/dreev-dominates-gabuzyan-dragoons

Why did Lendermann here play Rae1? and not Rxf3?

A game I like, is:

YuYangyi vs Dreev Blitz Caro Kann Exchange (Chess Mood line) 2016 1-0

[Event "World Blitz Championship"]
[Site "Doha QAT"]
[Date "2016.12.29"]
[EventDate "2016.12.29"]
[Round "4.7"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Yu Yangyi"]
[Black "Alexey Dreev"]
[ECO "B13"]
[WhiteElo "2729"]
[BlackElo "2652"]
[PlyCount "67"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. Bd3 Nc6 5. c3 Qc7 6. Ne2 Bg4
7. O-O e6 8. Qe1 Bxe2 9. Qxe2 Nf6 10. Nd2 Bd6 11. g3 O-O
12. f4 Rae8 13. Nf3 Nd7 14. Bd2 f5 15. Ne5 Nf6 16. Kh1 Ne4
17. Be3 a6 18. Rg1 Bxe5 19. fxe5 Qf7 20. Raf1 h5 21. c4 dxc4
22. Bxe4 Qd7 23. Bg2 b5 24. Qxh5 Nb4 25. Rd1 Nd3 26. Qe2 Rc8
27. Rgf1 Nb4 28. a3 Nd5 29. Bd2 Rfd8 30. Ba5 Re8 31. Bb4 Qf7
32. Bxd5 exd5 33. Qf3 g6 34. g4 1-0

(How do you add the pgn viewer to posts/comments?)

GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 2 years ago

Hey Richard! 
You just click "add new file" and add a pgn file. 
GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 2 years ago

Hey guys! 
Just recorded it! :) 
Before we edit and upload I offer you to find a crazy and most unhuman move I have ever seen, that Engine offers in this position. Black to move. 

Jay Garrison

Jay Garrison 2 years ago

1...Qb6 2.b3 (2.Bxf6, Bxf6 3. Qxh5, Qxa2) Ne5 3. Bc2, Bg6
GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 2 years ago

Wow, Jay, looks interesting! 
GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 2 years ago

I just checked it's the 2nd line of the engine! :) 
The problem is 2.Nd2 Ne5 (if 2...Qb2 then Rb1) 3.Bb5! The engine again goes crazy :) 

Jay Garrison

Jay Garrison 2 years ago

This is a wild position, and one I can keep looking at for a long time! 3.Bb5! Wow! I totally missed this haha
GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 2 years ago


Hey guys! Just uploaded a new advanced section in Caro Kann, "Dreev Line".
Hopefully, you love it. 

Kevin D

Kevin D 2 years ago

Just wanted to say I finished watching the Dreev Line update and really enjoyed it. You explained the nuances of the position very well and I hope to use this information as soon as the chance arises.

Thank you.

GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 2 years ago

You are welcome, Kevin. I am glad you like.
And thank you for your support- for sharing our puzzles. 
Timothy Harris

Timothy Harris 5 months ago

Hello Everyone,

New PRO member here.  Hope someone can help me here.  In GM Lev Alburt's book "Chess Openings for White, Explained," (second edition), in the line 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.c3 Qc7 6.Ne2 Bg4 7.f3[ why 7.f3 instead of 7.0-0? AIburt does not explain 7.f3] Bd7" (p.410).

Would you mind helping me understand why 7.f3 might be preferred in this line?  Thank you.

Timothy Harris

Timothy Harris 4 months ago

Disregard. No opinions from anyone after three weeks.  It was not an inappropriate question. No need to reply.
Kevin D

Kevin D 4 months ago

Nothing inappropriate about the question. "Chess Openings for White, Explained (COFWE)" is over a decade old during that time theory evolves, further nuances are discovered, and our understanding of a line or Opening System may deepen. 

Why is 7.0-0 now preferred instead of 7...f3? Because praxis and analysis has shown it to be a more promising continuation.  Rather than try to explain the subtle differences between the two moves, I will let one of the co-authors of the book you cited 'COFWE' do that for me:


Chessmood Odysseus

Chessmood Odysseus 4 months ago

Hi @Timothy_Harris, my apologies for not replying to your post earlier. I am the one in charge of sending the questions to our team if I cannot answer them by myself. I missed your post somehow and I am very sorry for that.

You can also check Avetik's video on this line explaining why castle and Qe1 are preferred too. (min 2)


@Kevin_D offered a very good resource and a very good explanation that starts in the min 2:35. Thanks once more for your help Kevin!