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Abra cadabra Gambits

Hey, champions and future champions! 
I'm going to record a course which we'll name Abra Cadabra gambits :) 

We'll play against all dubious openings after 1.e4, like Latvian and Elephant gambits.
What else would you like me to cover there? 

And do you like the name? 
"Crushing Abra Cadabra Gambits" 

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David Flynn

David Flynn 1 year ago

Love it - we had a laugh in Friday's session noting it's also the name of a popular 80's song.

'Abracadabra, I wanna reach out and grab ya'     (to which we can change it to: I wanna reach out and grab ya pawn    - I think we can use artistic licence to use ya as a shortening of your rather than you).

Also to borrow from Joker in The Dark Knight 'How about a magic trick? I'm going to make this pawn disappear. Ta-dah! It's, it's gone!'

I guess the question is which gambits? Ones I can think of in the repertoire lines:

Elephant (more dangerous in 10 minute chess than you'd think I knew a 2000 rated player who used it).
Latvian (certainly dangerous in the hands of a caveman)
Blackmar-Diemer (a very popular one touted as crush all your opponents, and dangerous too if you don't know it)
Sicilian wing gambit/deferred
The fred [e4 f5] (certainly lower rated players will get that)
The damiano defence [e4 e5 Nf3 f6 - since the e pawn is taken] (simply deal with)
e4 e5 Nf3 Bc5 (already covered in the Scotch but worth repeating - especially if Black tries Qh4 ideas which don't work if dealt with correctly)
Scandinavian c6 and maybe rarer e6/e5 (as mentioned Friday)
Grob g4 gambit maybe (is it really an abracadabra gambit though or is that pawn compensated if you take it)

Ps.

It's usually written as all one word (abracadabra), although there evidently is a rapper who is called the two word version.

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jamie Wilby

jamie Wilby 1 year ago

Not sure if its a gambit line specifically but 1. f4 

Also agree about the ones posted above Latvian gambit is not truly bad as such I think.

jamie Wilby

jamie Wilby 1 year ago

Sorry I meant elephant one is not totally bad actually.
David Flynn

David Flynn 1 year ago

f4 e5 fxe5 d6 is the From Gambit. I don't think it's sound though (if White sees through the traps on the next couple of moves). If it can be made to work, it probably would be in a 'minor moves' course for White as what to play as Black rather than a gambit course such as this which is for refuting gambits seen in sidelines of the repertoire [I think] (and Chessmood repertoire is e4 so you wouldn't play against it).

That said there was some talk about a Kings Gambit theme tournament (more sound that anything mentioned above, but I would take consideration to the Latvian for that). The problem with the KG though is if Black knows what he's doing in several main lines he can get a drawn position or even a slight advantage. It's fun to play, but there are so many lines to learn (when you might as well learn something better) which is why it's usually only recommended to under 1800s or so. Great for blitz though. As an example of why, John Shaw's herculean effort on the Kings Gambit in his book, he had no line for the modern which keeps White's advantage (even equality).

Kevin D

Kevin D 1 year ago

@GM_Avetik_Grigoryan

I like the title Abracadabra Gambits very much, it sums up perfectly the nature of these funky systems.

The Stafford Gambit has gained an Online Cult following due to the efforts of Eric Rosen, so you should give that high priority as our members will be seeing it a lot: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nc6?!?!

By the way Quality Chess Publishing has just released a book on The Elephant Gambit for black, so we can expect to see this a lot more too at the amateur and club level.   http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/products/1/388/the_exhilarating_elephant_gambit_by_michael_agermose_jensen_and_jakob_aabling-thomsen/ 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5 3.exd5 Bd6 is the line the Elephant Gambit authors are going for.

One or two members were also concerned about 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 c6?!, while The Smith Morra Gambit Accepted should be revisited I think, since 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 Nf6 is sort of letting White off the hook, surely we should have a reliable way to take this pawn and retain good winning chances.

I almost forgot about another online favorite, the so called Gibbins Weidenhagen Gambit: 1.d4 Nf6 2.g4?! https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/the-gibbins-weidenhagen-gambit

Then of course what dubious gambit list would be complete without including the notorious BDG (Blackmar Diemer Gambit): 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.e4?! or 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.f3?! or 1.d4 Nf6 2.f3 d5 3.e4 dxe4 4.Nc3  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpMfI-HMyxg

Good luck with what should prove to be an exciting and eagerly anticipated project. :-)

Edit: Add these to the list 1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 f5?!?! and 1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Ng4.

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Specter11

Specter11 1 year ago

I see you wrote gambits after 1.e4 Nc6. First must be created course for white against 1.e4 Nc6. As it is unknown, how chessmood will reccomend playing against it. Maybe 1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 not 2.Nf3, so the two gambit you mentioned may not be a real problem.
Kevin D

Kevin D 1 year ago

@Specter11_

You make a good point, but after 1.e4 Nc6 I doubt ChessMood will choose 2.d4 because we could easily get move-ordered following 2...d5 3.exd5 [3.e5 Bf5 lead to unclear positions] Qxd5 4.Nf3 Bg4 now we have been tricked into a line of the Scandi not recommended in the course. After 1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 it is easier for us to stay within our ChessMood repertoire as the alternatives to 2...e5 are not very dangerous or convincing.

GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 1 year ago

That's correct! 
We'll play 2.Nf3 
Giorgos Kechagias

Giorgos Kechagias 1 year ago

The russian game and the Stannford gambit when Petroff occures, in order to beat Eric Rosen.
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couldn't be better :D
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Michael Larsen

Michael Larsen 1 year ago

Brilliant
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daniel schleith

daniel schleith 1 year ago

I just saw this after I posted about the stafford! I'm seeing that one a lot haha.
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WIM_Susanna Gaboyan

WIM_Susanna Gaboyan 1 year ago

The name is amazing :D
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GM_Avetik Grigoryan

GM_Avetik Grigoryan 1 year ago

Hey guys! 
Okay, we'll call it "The Refutation of Abra Cadabra Gambits"  :) 

Deal :) 

My question actually was about gambits with 1.e4, which you face playing our ChessMood openings. 
Please take a look, did I forget anything, or are there any other things which are bothering you? 

Also, do you know if 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Bc5 does have a name? 


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Giorgos Kechagias

Giorgos Kechagias 1 year ago

Υes it is called Busch Gass Gambit you can go lickess analyze then opening explorer and you can see all the names of any opening
David Flynn

David Flynn 1 year ago

As mentioned in the main article, 5... Qh5 in the Scandinavian could be covered here or in the Scandinavian course as there are a few tricks to navigate.
Göran Gudichsen

Göran Gudichsen 1 year ago

May I add:

Owens Defence 1.e4 b6

Borg 1.e4 g5

St George Defence 1.e4 a6

David Flynn

David Flynn 1 year ago

They are unorthodox openings which could do with their own course for Black and White. This is a thread for gambits.
Göran Gudichsen

Göran Gudichsen 1 year ago

... and

North Sea Defence 1…g6 2.d4 Nf6

Kevin Sun

Kevin Sun 1 year ago

This course is super helpful to me.

I lost to all kinds of gambits all the time.  Yesterday was Elephant and Stafford.

David Flynn

David Flynn 1 year ago

Another gambit that appears in the repertoire and should be mentioned in the accelerated dragon course and/or here is the Zollner Gambit:

7. Be2 O-O 8. f4 d6 9. O-O Qb6 - now the main move covered in the course is 10. Qd3, but there is also the dubious gambit 10. e5?!

In Winning with the Dragon, GM Ward (then an IM) gives the following 'refutation':

10... dxe5 11. fxe5 Nxe5 12. Nf5 Qxb2! 13. Nxe7+ Kh8 14. Bd4 Qb4! 15. Bxe5 (15. Ned5 Nxd5 16. Nxd5 Qxd4+ 17. Qxd4 Nf3+ winning, or 15. Nxc8 Rd8!) 15... Qxe7 16. Qd4 Nh5 17. Bxg7+ Nxg7 18. Bd3 Be6 with an big advantage to Black in Hazelton-Ward, London Lloyds Bank 1985

This was before engine analysis in 1994. The engine agrees so far giving Black a full pawn ahead. However, 18. Bf3 is better with more complications -  after 18... Be6, the idea is 19. Rab1 with pressure on b7. 19... Rfd8 20. Rxb7 Qxb7 21. Qxd8 Rxd8 22. Bxb7

Black is still a little under half a pawn better according to the engine, but there is a lot going on here in all those tactical moves, so would be good to go through it.

David Flynn

David Flynn 1 year ago

First time I've seen this gambit:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 c6?! The Gunderam Gambit.

If 3. Nxe5 Qe7?! with the idea being 4. d4 f6 5. Qh5+?? g6 6. Nxg6 Qxe4+

Perhaps it's best not to take the pawn?

Claudio Thoux

Claudio Thoux 1 year ago

e4 f5

Duras'Gambit

David Flynn

David Flynn 1 year ago

Also known as The Fred.